2016 Legacy with Harman Kardon nav

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2016 Legacy with Harman Kardon nav

Post by jawrsh » Wed May 09, 2018 9:10 am

I'm interested in replacing my Harman Kardon navigation head unit but I am not ready to replace the amp or speakers so I wonder if it's possible to integrate with the factory amp. Does idatalink have a product that will facilitate this? The features list on the RR doesn't include anything to do with audio.

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Re: 2016 Legacy with Harman Kardon nav

Post by Dara DeGrand » Wed May 09, 2018 10:10 am

We do retain the Harman Kardon. You would need a Maestro RR, the SU2 harness, and a iDatalink compatible radio.

http://maestro.idatalink.com/accessorie ... project/rr

http://maestro.idatalink.com/compatible-radios
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Re: 2016 Legacy with Harman Kardon nav

Post by jawrsh » Wed May 09, 2018 10:27 am

Thanks Dara. I thought the SU2 was just for amp replacement so thanks for clarifying. I don't see it for sale anywhere online though. Any idea where I can find one?

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Re: 2016 Legacy with Harman Kardon nav

Post by Dara DeGrand » Wed May 09, 2018 10:52 am

It's brand new, so it's just getting into distribution. That can make it hard to find. You might try local vendors, if there is nothing online. You can search maestro dealers at the link below:
http://maestro.idatalink.com/find-product
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Re: 2016 Legacy with Harman Kardon nav

Post by jawrsh » Tue May 15, 2018 4:19 pm

I found a shop on your site that is trying to get me one, so thanks.

Looking at the install diagram the SU2 harness has an aux cable that connects to one of the car's plugs but it also shows a 3.5mm audio cable from the MRR to the aftermarket radio. If there's an aux cable in the SU2 harness where does the other audio cable plug in at the radio?

I see you just announced the uSU2 USB adapter so that only leaves one connection not yet addressed: the factory bluetooth mic. Do you have anything for that?

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Re: 2016 Legacy with Harman Kardon nav

Post by Zack Flynn » Tue May 15, 2018 5:59 pm

The "audio cable" would go to the idatalink input on the aftermarket radio, and the "aux" would go into a separate aux source or AV type input on the radio. There isn't a way to use the factory microphone with the aftermarket radio at this time. You would need to use the microphone that comes with your new radio.
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Re: 2016 Legacy with Harman Kardon nav

Post by jawrsh » Tue May 15, 2018 11:26 pm

I don't mean the data cable. The diagram shows the data cable AND a 3.5mm audio cable from the maestro to the radio, and a 3.5mm aux cable as part of the harness going to the radio.

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Re: 2016 Legacy with Harman Kardon nav

Post by Dara DeGrand » Wed May 16, 2018 8:45 am

Zack isn't talking about the data cable. The one he refers to as the "audio cable" is the 3-pin to 3.5mm on our diagram that goes between the maestro and the radio. Does that clarify it a bit?
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Re: 2016 Legacy with Harman Kardon nav

Post by tenemu » Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:12 am

I am also curious about this cable. It has no home for the back of my head unit.


It is the cable circled red here: My pioneer AVH-W4400NEX does not have an audio in (other than AUX In) for an idatalink audio in cable. It only has the 4 pin data cable input.

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Re: 2016 Legacy with Harman Kardon nav

Post by Dara DeGrand » Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:33 am

Tenemu, in your application, you don't need to install the audio cable. Normally, it would go into AUX on Pioneer and Alpine radios. Kenwood/JVC has a dedicated port for iDatalink, called 'iDatalink I/F'.
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Re: 2016 Legacy with Harman Kardon nav

Post by tenemu » Mon Aug 20, 2018 12:09 pm

Thanks! That clears things up.

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Re: 2016 Legacy with Harman Kardon nav

Post by buddhake » Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:10 pm

Thanks for all the info on this. I just hooked up my Legacy last night with the W4400NEX. What I can not tell is if the factory GPS antenna is part of the default RR/SU2 install, or not. There is not a specific wire (I do not have Starlink so no brown wire) for GPS, but documentation says it is a feature. Can anyone confirm that the factory GPS is also being sent to the radio? Thanks!

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Re: 2016 Legacy with Harman Kardon nav

Post by Zack Flynn » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:02 pm

The GPS antenna is a separate antenna that would have connected into the back of the radio. We do not make any sort of adaptor for that connection, and recommend you check some other aftermarket harness/kit manufacturers to see if anyone else makes one.
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Re: 2016 Legacy with Harman Kardon nav

Post by buddhake » Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:40 am

Thank you!

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