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06 ram infinity system

Post by anglemyer.cole » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:35 pm

I have a couple questions, first I am retaining the factory amp. by doing this I wired everything per instructions, but when listening to stereo I notice that most of my sound is coming out of the dash speakers. I have replaced all speakers in the truck with kicker 3.5 in dash, polk audio 3 way 6x9 in front doors and polk 6.5 in rear doors. I read online that if the gain from idatalink is too high it will mess up the factory amp. is there a way to get the door speaker levels equal to the dash levels. if I have to bypass the amp I can but I would prefer not to. Second when I try to use the gauge feature on the pioneer avh 2330 nex radio it says obd unavailable, I can plug a scan tool in and it works just fine so I know its not the truck side. it may be possible I'm not using the gauges right.

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Re: 06 ram infinity system

Post by Dara DeGrand » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:11 am

See attached; Make sure your harness is pinned correctly.
Tech tip CH2 v2.docx
If you have the ability to adjust your amplifier gain in your OEM Setup, there will only be one gain setting. The vehicle only has one left and one right output that go to the amp, and then the amp splits and crosses the signal over, and sends that to the speakers. Because of that, there is no way to just adjust the gain of the door speakers. The signal for all of your speakers is coming from the same set of wires.
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Re: 06 ram infinity system

Post by blacktf » Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:17 pm

I'm going to join in here instead of starting a new thread.

I'm in the same boat, 06 Dodge ram with infinity and I am only getting sound from the dash speakers. Am I doing something wrong or is this a limitation of the maestro rr?

Also, am I correct to assume the output for steering wheel controls is resistance based? What purpose does the blue wire on that plug serve?

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Re: 06 ram infinity system

Post by Dara DeGrand » Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:44 am

What kind of radio do you have? Which plug are you asking about in reference to the blue wire?
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Re: 06 ram infinity system

Post by blacktf » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:21 pm

The radio is a generic with 4 channels out, idata not supported. The RR is flashed with ADS-RR(SR)-CHR02-AS (512) (2.3)

The plug I'm referring to is the blue one with the 3.5mm jack. Looks like the jack has a ground and a circuit for resistance. I'm having problems getting the radio to read the outputs so I'm wondering what the blue cable is on that blue plug?

Thanks for the help

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Post by Dara DeGrand » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:02 am

Those are both steering wheel control cables. You will only use one (depends on what type of radio you have). The other will not be used.
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Re: 06 ram infinity system

Post by blacktf » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:01 pm

I figured, less concerned about the steering wheel controlls right now but having the rear speakers working is kinda important. Any idea why the rear channels aren't working? Seems if the RR gets input on all 4 channels it should output the correct signals to the factory amp?

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Post by Dara DeGrand » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:33 pm

On the infinity system, only two channels feed the amp, and then it splits the input signal to the rest of the speakers. If you look at your harness, you'll notice that there are no front speaker wires pinned on the OEM side of the harness. The wires that are pinned for the rear left and rear right speakers are what feed signal to the amplifier. Do you only have 2 speakers playing at all times, or is it in certain sources?
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Re: 06 ram infinity system

Post by blacktf » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:14 pm

So, I verified that the radio is working and that it's out putting on 4 channels. Correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like the signal never passes through the RR? It is passed directly through the CH2 to the factory harness, which explains why I only get 2 channels.

I thought the whole purpose of the RR was as a can bus adapter to correctly send the necessary signals to the amp.

As I see it right now, the maestro RR is incompatible with the infinity system in my Dodge Ram as not even the correct steering wheel controls are being passed on?

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Re: 06 ram infinity system

Post by Dara DeGrand » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:59 am

None of the audio signal passes through the RR because that isn't necessary. Yes, we send a digital turn-on to tell the amplifier to turn on, but the speaker wires in the truck are responsible for sending the audio signal to the amplifier. From there, the amplifier takes two channels of input signal, splits, and crosses it over so that it should play on all the speakers.

You never did answer my question- what brand and model of radio are you using?
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Re: 06 ram infinity system

Post by blacktf » Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:28 am

Cn01 made by pumpkin.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074M6YFN1/re ... 1Ab9RQNAXB

I understand how the system works. The factory harness only has one set of stereo wires and the amp(s) split the signal into 4 zones. The factory headunit basically controls the amp. If I understand correctly there is no way to send those signals to the amp without the factory headunit. So I'm not sure how the RR is a "solution".

Can we try and get the RR to pass on steering wheel controls at least? How can I get 6 (one for each button) resistance values passed to the aftermarket radio?

I'm getting a sense that it's impossible to change out the factory headunit on this vehicle.

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Re: 06 ram infinity system

Post by Dara DeGrand » Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:50 am

We don't cover Pumpkin radios because we don't know what kind of signal they are using to control the steering wheels. Because of that, we don't know what kind of signal to send to make them function. Unfortunately, the steering wheel controls won't work with this solution. You would either need to change the brand of interface you're using or the brand of radio to something that we cover.
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