2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee Sirius and GPS Pioneer connection problems

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2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee Sirius and GPS Pioneer connection problems

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Good day. First I'll say that my installation of my Pioneer AVIC-W8600NEX using the iDatalink Maestro RR Interface Module, iDatalink HRN-RR-CH1 Install Harness, and iDatalink HRN-AV-CH1 Rear AV System Harness all went very smoothly in my 2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland. Everything is working well and I'm very pleased.
I have some antenna problems I'm trying to resolve however. I also purchased the iDatalink Maestro SAT1 and iDatalink ACC-NAV2 so that I could connect the factory Jeep antenna to the system. The factory headunit, a 730 RHR, worked fine with both GPS and Sirius in use regularly and no problems with those systems. When replacing the headunit with the new Pioneer I found that there are only two antenna connectors. A white connector that is currently connected to the AM/FM antenna on the new Pioneer unit and working fine and a "curry" colored connector. At first I thought that was the GPS connector since it more closely matched the green color of the GPS connector on the Pioneer but that didn't work. The GPS just reported that no antenna was attached. GPS works ok with the antenna that came with the Pioneer headunit. I tried the "curry" connector on the Sirius SXM300v1 tuner that is connected to the Pioneer headunit using the iDatalink Maestro SAT1 cable and after getting on the phone with Sirius for an hour it looks like there is just no signal on the Sirius tuner. I connected the antenna that the Sirius tuner came with and no signal there either.
First, how can I use my factory am/fm, sirius, gps factory antenna with my new Pioneer headunit when there are only two connectors that were used by the factory headunit and available to me in the dash? and next, what am I doing wrong that there is no signal on the Sirius SXM300v1 using the iDatalink Maestro SAT1 cable to the factory antenna?
Thanks for any assistance and advice!

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Chrysler used a dual purpose antenna for the GPS and Satellite Radio back then. use the Pioneer GPS antenna and place it on top of the radio or in a location that is not covered by metal (it can sit under plastic). You should be able to then use the cars antena for satellite radio but from the sounds of it something may be wrong with the SXV300 if its not working with the antenna that came with it. to confirm place satellite radio antenna on the roof and pull car outside and test satellit radio again.
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Thanks Justin.
I'll try messing around with the SXV300. It seemed strange that the antenna it came with wasn't working. I actually drove around trying to see if it would pick up a signal but it stayed at nothing. I'm going to borrow another antenna to try but I may also just need to replace the SXV300 maybe I got a bad one?
What's the possibility of putting a splitter on the factory antenna output in the dash so I could use it for both GPS and Sirius as it worked originally?
I'll let you know what I find out.
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I don't believe splitting it will work, unfortunately.
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Greetings again all. Thank you so much for the information. I thought I would just provide a little update for any others who may come along with similar issues. As I had explained originally I have been using the Sirius SXV300v1 and not having any lucking getting it to work with my new Pioneer AVIC-W8600NEX headunit. I have since gotten a second SXV300v1 tuner and used the included antenna and that also does not work. It's clear to me now that the tuner is not getting any signal as the small icon on the headunit should show some signal bars next to the icon but it shows absolutely none. Doing a little bit more thinking on this and reading about satellite radio I came to understand that the Jeep 730RHR headunit is branded as a SIRIUS radio. Not SIRIUSXM as the new SXV300v1 tuner is. SiriusXM clearly states that the three things are different. Sirius, XM, and SirusXM are not the same. I'm not sure why or what the specifics of that are. My last and final attempt is going to be to get a Sirius SCC1 tuner which is older but it is branded SIRIUS. Is this why I'm having problems? Is it that my SiriusXM subscription only allow SIRIUS radios and not SiriusXM? Very strange and very convoluted. Is all of that really necessary? I'll post again when I can test with the other tuner.

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You should still receive signal, whether it's Sirius, XM, or SXM branded. One uses satellite specifically (Sirius I believe), the other using land-based repeaters (XM?) and I forget how SXM was configured.

Either way, the antennas are able to be interchanged and will receive signal.
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Silly question but are we calling SiriusXM and activating the new tuner?
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Thank you for the feedback. Yes, three times I've contacted SiriusXM support. The last time I was on the phone for over and hour while she tried to get someone to explain to her how I could have a different tuner in the same vehicle (VIN number). I also found it strange that there was zero signal indication with two different brand new tuners. Now three. Crutchfield had said I have to try with three tuners before they will replace my headunit. I guess we are at that point. I dunno but maybe I just give up on Sirius because this is too many problems. Either way this belongs on a forum about satellite radio and I wish someone had such a thing someplace so I could get answers!
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Sorry to hear. Hop e that they are able to get it squared away for you soon.
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